Let's start with the good. I love the way the pants fit my waist and that general area. Now for the bad... The first belt loop is too small for the official belt with metal tip to slide through. I need to fold the belt like a flag to get it through, which is a hassle. The cost of ownership is increased by the "tailor tax", meaning if you don't have a family member that sews, you need to pay a tailor to have the legs hemmed. I had to bring them back a second time to add a one inch taper to the ankles because they are essentially boot-cut and wore like bell bottoms. The pockets are weak and my keys formed a hole in the pocket, which is crazy because I only wear these things for a few hours each week. The fly zipper broke after a few months of light use and I needed to get that replaced by a tailor. The sizing is hard to get right the first time, so I sold the pants to someone else in the troop and bought another brand new pair off eBay from some other person that was also experiencing sizing issues. The zippers are cheap and not deburred or something. Every time you reach into the right zippered pocket is scratches up my hand. My overall cost of ownership exceeds $100 with two trips to the tailor, repairs, and eBay shipping. They're nice looking pants, but terrible quality and a MAJOR hassle...